I was asked to put together something for Davids birthday coming up. he has the overlad itch. Monday March 12th through Friday the 16. I have two loops in mind for the week. snow pack is low, and time is short to plan that trip so here goes. My.02 Option one: Head Straight to the redwoods. Head south via I5 destination Crescent city, Ca. There is a bunch of stuff to do down there in the redwoods north and south. I know of a good and quiet camp location near town and the forest, and forest center.(http://www.co.del-norte.ca.us/departments/parks) spent the next day exploring at your leisure, camp a second night, head out in the morning of the 3rd day. The dunes we can stay at Hooneymoon state park (http://oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPage&parkId=95) Is has an acess to the beach right in camp (if not its close) so you can go out and play on the sand, drive to the beach, W/E's. Stay there overnight, puting us into thursday morning. Then head North on Hw 101 for Ft. stevens state park. (http://oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPage&parkId=129) I grew up going there. There are plenty of things to do and see. left over WWII bunkers. miles of bike trails, a lake, the Peter Iredale shipwreck, driveable beach. Its a nice place. this take sus into friday. and puts us near seaside, or and a quick jot home for some of you pdx guys. Option Two... Start at Browns camp, Or. I will guide you on whatever trails we want to run. find a camp, build a HUGE fire, shoot the shit, eat good dinner and see as much or as little as the group feels up to. trail miles, cool, camp time, cool. spend either one or two days there exploring, and wheeling the trials. maybee spend the 1st day hitting mild trails everybody can do, then the second doing trail with more difficulty? Wednesday Head for sand lake bomb around on the sand, find a spot to camp, get our ocean fix during the day. move on to Either beverly beach state park(http://oregonstateparks.org/index.cfm?do=parkPage.dsp_parkPage&parkId=164) or Ft. Stevens State park. where both are very chill, have great clean facilities, and are in good proximity to good foods on the way home. My preference is option two. only due to planning time and mileage. this will keep us close to home, still a very diverse path with plenty to do. and when the weather gets better i'm planing on making a redwoods trip with the wife and kids anyways (open invite!) but its not my birthday and I'm not deciding! so there LOL. If you guys want to go to go on the redwoods loop trip this time I and I can't make it i have no problem setting you up with an itinerary and meeting up with you later in the week for the end of the trip. So let my situation have no bearing on your decisions. Lets take a few days to discuss it here. i'll get an official staging area thread up when we have hashed out a little more of the details. Looking forward to a kick ass time! Bronze.